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Hat tip to Genervter: "Pancreatic vaccines with amazing results".

Investigational mRNA Vaccine Induced Persistent Immune Response in Phase 1 Trial of Patients With Pancreatic Cancer

April 7, 2024

https://www.mskcc.org/news/can-mrna-vaccines-fight-pancreatic-cancer-msk-clinical-researchers-are-trying-find-out

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Observations. And this is a recurrent theme:

1/ It's a phase 1 trial, which is primarily to assess safety and side effects, not efficacy.

2/ It's no cure and again after surgery, supposedly to improve survival rates. With pancreatic cancer this excludes a lot of patients as only a small number are suitable for surgery. It's aggressive, and with most it's already too late and metastatic once diagnosed.

3/ It's ineffective on its own and was used in combination with an immunotherapy drug called atezolizumab and a chemotherapy regimen called mFOLFIRINOX. The irony here is that a common side effect of atezolizumab is... drumroll... pancreatitis!

https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/patient-education/medications/adult/atezolizumab

4/ Even so, the efficacy was at or below 50%.

If only say 20% are suitable for surgery and the efficacy in this group is 50% then the overall contribution to improving pancreatic cancer survival rates is probably less than 10%.

And I'm being generous here, as only around half the patients are suitable for chemo:

"... The main concern regarding adjuvant chemotherapy is that half of the patients never start adjuvant treatment as a result of surgical complications, clinical deterioration, or early recurrence [6, 7]. "

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10405377/

Is it worth the horrible side effects, expense, and loss of QoL to improve your odds a little?

5/ What sort of T cell response? It may have little effect.

6/ Pancreatic cancer involves so many genetic mutations and disrupted cancer pathways that a needle just isn't going to put Humpty back together again:

Genetic Mutations of Pancreatic Cancer and Genetically Engineered Mouse Models

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8750056/

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If TLR2 or 4 recognise the dsRNA you used, then you may accelerate tumor progression:

Immunomodulatory Effects of dsRNA and Its Potential as Vaccine Adjuvant (2010)

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2010/690438/

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