I donât know if youâve seen I posted this link in our mutual friend Arkâs channel, and then Maples sent me your article. I thought Iâd share it with you, not to imply that youâre wrong, Iâm sure you are not. But, because the testimonials are so convincing, Iâm quite baffled how to explain them... can they all be placebo effects? Lies? Actors?
Feel free to delete my post if you think this is a distraction, I donât mean to do that. I honestly thought you might want to take a look at the list of references that goes hand in hand with the documentary
I buy it in a different form called CDS and have been using it for years. It's more mild it doesn't have that aftertaste that I hated. It has worked great for me, I think it may have saved my life because when I started feeling sick and had a stomach ache and fever in 2019 i started taking the recommended dose of CDS everyday. (i think it was 1 ml every 10 min for 2 hours) A couple weeks later my natural doctor in La Jolla recommended I go to the ER because my stomach ache was still bothering me. Turns out I needed emergency surgery for perforated diverticulitis which runs in my family. But after the surgeon reviewed my CT scan and came to see me she was shocked that I was not deathly ill and in sepsis because of the amount of material in my abdomen meant my colon had been leaking for quite a while yet I looked fine and I felt fine other than a stomach ache. I think the CDS I was taking every day is the reason I did not go into sepsis or die.
All I can do is caution against misuse & accidental or cumulative overdose as it's a strong oxidant and competes with dietary iodine & taurine. The Na content can increase the toxicity still further.
I hope that we can have a dialog about this topic. And if you use anecdotal evidence along with concise data, I will also. Give me a little time, and I will write a reply to the article that you have written here. My intention is not to have a argument, but rather to look at all of the evidence with an unbiased and open mind. I will try to address each area of the article that you have written.
If anyone is interested I have produced a documentary about chlorine dioxide.
Before starting my research into chlorine dioxide I thought it was, at best, snake oil or, at worst, toxic.
To my surprise, I discovered this is not true, and through three years of research ultimately produced a documentary about the subject. It is free and found here with full documentation. https://theuniversalantidote.com
And I'm getting some kickback, from even a well known figure in our circles. Which is great, it's all about debate. Just show me the pathways, PCR test cycles and or studies & clinical data that support systemic antiviral efficacy and I will amend the post with it? All I'm seeing is a lot of handwaving so far.
Oh and monocyte knockdown doesn't count. The vax does that & suppresses immune response via IgG4, ifn suppression & remodelling ie everything but the viral count which is increased.
Either way, there are safer and effective alternatives.
There is so much misinformation out there even studies are full of lies. I just canât believe this post as I have seen much positive info about chlorine dioxide and have had good results from using it.
I wonder who told all these people in these cases, to drink jugs of the stuff, or to mainline it, ... or worse, BOTH. Darwin awards are surely in order. But worse, to use these idiots as a viable reason to say it is deadly dangerous, is disingenuous at best. Chug 10 gallons of crystal clear spring water in an hours. It's deadly dangerous, .... or just Darwin award worthy ?? DC here is not asking the right questions, about the omitted information, or he is not up to speed on what is actually recommended and believes that drinking a liter of the stuff and injecting it into one's veins is a result of following ANY directions, instructions, or recommendations. This is sloppy as hell and it feels more like someone just got dragged down the Stooge hole as though someone is trying to make him look like a buffoon.
I do not see a shred of scientific thought or expression in what you have written.
It's not deadly dangerous. Here are the facts the EPA and FDA have established LOAEL AND NOAEL and oral therapeutic doses fall below the LOAEL. Those are the facts and saying anything else it's just propaganda or ignorance.
That's great, I'm always open to different information. Could you provide specifics eg ingredients, dose, duration, application technique, outcomes, prophylactic or cure, other studies and compared to what as a control eg even other family members?
Cheers DC...I can report using a mouthwash / toothpaste brand called DioxiCare for over 2 years now. I have not noticed any adverse effects, and it works better for halitosis than any product I have ever tested. [not affiliated with the manufacturer in any way]
Good to hear, just promise me now that you won't be going on a multi litre drinking spree any time soon. If it's mineral water that's fine but make sure a loo is handy ;-)
Thank you for posting. I had wondered about CIO2 as it appeared at first glance and from many positive reviews online to be a âmiracleâ substance but your warning is good and should be taken highly seriously. I DO feel it is MUCH safer than Bleach for external use and surface disinfectant. My mother, for example, had a skin condition, her dermatologist even recommended low concentration bleach washes. I feel THaT is dangerous and am inclined to believe that CIO2 would be much safer for that purpose as well, esp since, if I am understanding correctly it doesnât have the same offgassing into the lungs that bleach has (I have heard that breathing bleach smells alone can be potentially carcinogenic). Since most of my knowledge is hearsay, please feel free to correct me.
External is fine, but MMS is being marketed as ClO2 when really it has all the toxicity from the sodium content, ie it's bleach. It's one of those things where you need to be very careful with what you are actually mixing up and at what strength.
Simply piling up articles is meaningless; they will only make chlorine dioxide seem ordinary.
Do you have any thoughts on taking H2O2 internally?
I spend my life trying to mitigate the effects of reactive oxygen species, unless it's from macrophages to kill something.
I've not seen any studies on it, but there is an info site:
https://www.poison.org/articles/hydrogen-peroxide
Hi,
I appreciate this very much.
I donât know if youâve seen I posted this link in our mutual friend Arkâs channel, and then Maples sent me your article. I thought Iâd share it with you, not to imply that youâre wrong, Iâm sure you are not. But, because the testimonials are so convincing, Iâm quite baffled how to explain them... can they all be placebo effects? Lies? Actors?
Feel free to delete my post if you think this is a distraction, I donât mean to do that. I honestly thought you might want to take a look at the list of references that goes hand in hand with the documentary
https://theuniversalantidote.com/
I buy it in a different form called CDS and have been using it for years. It's more mild it doesn't have that aftertaste that I hated. It has worked great for me, I think it may have saved my life because when I started feeling sick and had a stomach ache and fever in 2019 i started taking the recommended dose of CDS everyday. (i think it was 1 ml every 10 min for 2 hours) A couple weeks later my natural doctor in La Jolla recommended I go to the ER because my stomach ache was still bothering me. Turns out I needed emergency surgery for perforated diverticulitis which runs in my family. But after the surgeon reviewed my CT scan and came to see me she was shocked that I was not deathly ill and in sepsis because of the amount of material in my abdomen meant my colon had been leaking for quite a while yet I looked fine and I felt fine other than a stomach ache. I think the CDS I was taking every day is the reason I did not go into sepsis or die.
All I can do is caution against misuse & accidental or cumulative overdose as it's a strong oxidant and competes with dietary iodine & taurine. The Na content can increase the toxicity still further.
I hope that we can have a dialog about this topic. And if you use anecdotal evidence along with concise data, I will also. Give me a little time, and I will write a reply to the article that you have written here. My intention is not to have a argument, but rather to look at all of the evidence with an unbiased and open mind. I will try to address each area of the article that you have written.
Blessings,
Curious Outlier
If anyone is interested I have produced a documentary about chlorine dioxide.
Before starting my research into chlorine dioxide I thought it was, at best, snake oil or, at worst, toxic.
To my surprise, I discovered this is not true, and through three years of research ultimately produced a documentary about the subject. It is free and found here with full documentation. https://theuniversalantidote.com
What is Chlorine Dioxide, with Dr Manuel Apricio
https://rumble.com/v2hj7oo-79.-what-is-chlorine-dioxide-with-dr-manuel-apricio.html
https://andreaskalcker.com/en/coronavirus/clinical-study-with-chlorine-dioxide.html
https://andreaskalcker.com/en/coronavirus/clinical-study-with-chlorine-dioxide.html
Thanks DC. Tragic that the most needy folk misunderstood the surface disinfectant & the dilute solution for nasal rinsing & throat gargling only.
How sad that you had to write this. I wrote about Intravenous EDTA fraud.
https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/edta-deaths-in-america
And I'm getting some kickback, from even a well known figure in our circles. Which is great, it's all about debate. Just show me the pathways, PCR test cycles and or studies & clinical data that support systemic antiviral efficacy and I will amend the post with it? All I'm seeing is a lot of handwaving so far.
Oh and monocyte knockdown doesn't count. The vax does that & suppresses immune response via IgG4, ifn suppression & remodelling ie everything but the viral count which is increased.
Either way, there are safer and effective alternatives.
There is so much misinformation out there even studies are full of lies. I just canât believe this post as I have seen much positive info about chlorine dioxide and have had good results from using it.
I wonder who told all these people in these cases, to drink jugs of the stuff, or to mainline it, ... or worse, BOTH. Darwin awards are surely in order. But worse, to use these idiots as a viable reason to say it is deadly dangerous, is disingenuous at best. Chug 10 gallons of crystal clear spring water in an hours. It's deadly dangerous, .... or just Darwin award worthy ?? DC here is not asking the right questions, about the omitted information, or he is not up to speed on what is actually recommended and believes that drinking a liter of the stuff and injecting it into one's veins is a result of following ANY directions, instructions, or recommendations. This is sloppy as hell and it feels more like someone just got dragged down the Stooge hole as though someone is trying to make him look like a buffoon.
This is far from the ultimate Darwinian VHIQ test
We just saw most of the world fail the real test
Whoâs proud and confident now ???
The amount of intellectual copium in places like Stanford,UC Berkeley and MIT is in overdrive.
The head of MIT mathematics canât calculate his own stupidity. He died playing basketball on the MIT campus @29yo last month or so
This intellectual copiums race fuel is the Dunning-Kruger effect on steroids
Unfortunately, you have not looked at the facts. You should. https://theuniversalantidote.com
I do not see a shred of scientific thought or expression in what you have written.
It's not deadly dangerous. Here are the facts the EPA and FDA have established LOAEL AND NOAEL and oral therapeutic doses fall below the LOAEL. Those are the facts and saying anything else it's just propaganda or ignorance.
More info please.
That's great, I'm always open to different information. Could you provide specifics eg ingredients, dose, duration, application technique, outcomes, prophylactic or cure, other studies and compared to what as a control eg even other family members?
Contact Kerri riviera for a different perspective
Cheers DC...I can report using a mouthwash / toothpaste brand called DioxiCare for over 2 years now. I have not noticed any adverse effects, and it works better for halitosis than any product I have ever tested. [not affiliated with the manufacturer in any way]
Good to hear, just promise me now that you won't be going on a multi litre drinking spree any time soon. If it's mineral water that's fine but make sure a loo is handy ;-)
+1 for LOO - so much more elegant that we Yankees!
Thank you for posting. I had wondered about CIO2 as it appeared at first glance and from many positive reviews online to be a âmiracleâ substance but your warning is good and should be taken highly seriously. I DO feel it is MUCH safer than Bleach for external use and surface disinfectant. My mother, for example, had a skin condition, her dermatologist even recommended low concentration bleach washes. I feel THaT is dangerous and am inclined to believe that CIO2 would be much safer for that purpose as well, esp since, if I am understanding correctly it doesnât have the same offgassing into the lungs that bleach has (I have heard that breathing bleach smells alone can be potentially carcinogenic). Since most of my knowledge is hearsay, please feel free to correct me.
Your gut(pun) feeling is right about external use.
Iâve seen it heal rashes before my eyes.
ButâŚ.
Iâm a proponent of our microflora in our guts to support immune systems
I can only deduce this can have a deleterious effect on the microbiota in the gut.
I canât say it doesnât work for some people .
Whenever I bet or make a trade.
Thereâs always someone on the other side of the trade that are sure theyâre right
Sometimes they dishonestly stack the science odds in their favor
Retractionwatch.com
40k+!
retracted peer reviewed published papers and counting
External is fine, but MMS is being marketed as ClO2 when really it has all the toxicity from the sodium content, ie it's bleach. It's one of those things where you need to be very careful with what you are actually mixing up and at what strength.
interesting video from dr campbell ... thought it might be of interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEE5OfiVS7o